

So now you have EN which is easier, and still more rewarding, and you have NH which is definitely more rewarding and still more engaging as a raid tier. I think TOV also came out right around the time a lot of players in Legion started getting exhausted by the grind for AP, and titanforge gear etc., and stopped playing for a bit. Nobody really needs loot from either raid these days outside of new alts, its just for legos and ap. Making group for either dungeon takes same amount of effort, so people dont think making one for 3 is worth it. Theres the stat stick trinkets but you can get those or better from relinquished. That boss fight is honestly ezpz compared to Helya, so if people cant do that easy ass fight everyone knows Helya will just be a god awful mess.Ĭontinue this thread level 2 Comment deleted by user 3 years ago More than 1 child Continue this thread level 1 16 points 3 years ago Loot is kinda meh beyond the stat stick trinkets. Ive done a few pugs where 50 of raid leaves after Odyn because people wont do mechanics. Upvoted This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast Sort by best.įrom the time the raid is listed to the time Helya is down will probably be less than 45 minutes, so theyre not going to be up long.Ĭontinue this thread level 1 26 points 3 years ago Also the first boss battle is really punishing when people dont do the runes correctly. Helya is pretty much impossible on heroic for PUGs that arent way over geared and the gear is useless. Why is that Edit: Having now tried a few more time, I see why. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Log in sign up User account menu 50 Why does no one run Trial of Valor. Opened with garrote from stealth on both of them and they were burning as my garrote can crit for 20k.2 or 3 mutilates and i engaged odyn. Can You Solo Trial Of Valor By denandepe1977 Follow | Publicĭo you know any effective way to separate them alone I have a pet but they both seem to ignore him and go for me instead.
